By the light of a thousand candles

[zotz]

Well, I had a little trawl through Redwatch yesterday, and sadly didn't see the faces of anyone I know personally, which was a bit of a disappointment. I did. on the other hand, see a familiar name. If it's her, then she's definitely annoying the right people.

Interestingly, though, some of the faces in some of the photos have been blurred out. Why would that be? It was also interesting, given the comment yesterday on the rampaging competence of its owners, that at least one photo is in both the Scottish and London sections, and while they seemed to like naming and giving details on people, they look to have failed to recognise Peter Tatchell and George Galloway on at least one occasion each, as well as Pete Docherty, a man I've not previously had any particular reason to admire. Similarly, though, if he's annoying the right people . . .

I have to say, actually, I found it quite uplifting to see all the many and varied people pictured, and if there was a march today that I could go on to be with all the fantastic people I saw photos of, I'd be on it like a shot. Poisonous? Yes. Effective? Maybe not.

Yesterday I was mostly listening to The Ghosts of Cable Street. Today it's been Ironmasters, the Men's song about the Rebecca riots. Tomorrow may well be Shirt of Blue.

And I have two styes, not one. I though my eye felt a bit odd.

K Jackson's has now closed. Presumably El Barrio is, too. When it was Lord Darnley's I saw some very good bands there - Half Man Half Biscuit, The Probes and The Coal Porters among them. And some other bands, including Midnight Configuration.

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[pigeonhed.livejournal.com]

I didn't know the details of the Rebecca Riots, so thanks for that.

Shirt Of Blue is a fine song, will you move on to Colours next?

[zotz]

I'm not sure what I'll listen to obsessively next. Colours would certainly be a very good choice.

I was impressed by the most sympathetic account of the backgrounds (that I could find easily, anyway) having come from the South Wales Police.

[mirukux.livejournal.com]

i went throught the scottish page and recognised one person i was friends with at secondary school, although he was the ssp candidate for north east fife at the last general electrion so i guess it's not that surprising he's up there. what's interesting is that a number, including the one of my friend, seem to be taken at private parties or functions, so one can only assume they have been nabbed from the other websites. it's quite scary though to know there's such an easy to find, open, uk based website out there that's so antithetical to the main reasons i use the internets..

[mirukux.livejournal.com]

btw, do you know where i can find that bush mashup torrent, a track off of which was heard at yours last weekend?

[zotz]

The version of Imagine? That's by Wax Audio.

[zotz]

That's a good point, actually - presumably it's breaching a lot of copyright. I wonder if it would be possible to hit the owners for damages on those grounds? It would certainly push up the cost of running it.

[mirukux.livejournal.com]

a possability. looking at their hosting service's tos, there's a few interesting clauses;

"ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES: Photography by Gus/Uncensored-Hosting.com services may not be used for illegal purposes, or in support of illegal activities. Photography by Gus/Uncensored-Hosting.com reserves the right to cooperate with legal authorities and/or injured third parties in the investigation of any suspected crime or civil wrongdoing."

HARM OR ENDANGERMENT: You may not use Photography by Gus/Uncensored-Hosting.com’s service to harm, or attempt to harm, minors in any way, including, but not limited to proliferation, or dissemination of child pornography, bestiality or any illegal content. This includes advertisments and/or links to such content. Client agrees not to use Photography by Gus/Uncensored-Hosting.com’s service to transmit any material (by e-mail, uploading, posting or otherwise) that threatens or encourages bodily harm or destruction of property.

...

COPYRIGHT OR TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT: Use of Photography by Gus/Uncensored-Hosting.com hosting services to transmit any material (by e-mail, uploading, posting or otherwise) that infringes any copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret or other proprietary rights of any third party, including, but not limited to, the unauthorized copying of copyrighted material, the digitization and distribution of photographs from magazines, books, or other copyrighted sources, and the unauthorized transmittal of copyrighted software is strictly prohibited. Use of Photography by Gus/Uncensored-Hosting.com hosting service to collect, or attempt to collect, personal information about third parties without their knowledge or consent are strictly prohibited. Distribution and/or posting of copyrighted or the aforementioned infringements will not be tolerated."

but IANAL, so.. *shrugs*

[zotz]

to collect, or attempt to collect, personal information about third parties without their knowledge or consent

Well, they repeatedly ask for information on anyone pictured. Looks fairly straightforward to me.

[mirukux.livejournal.com]

googling it comes up with this thread so it looks like there have been attempts made to get the sites taken down although the current host seems to be stalling using the line that they'd need an actual court order to take action. i'd search more for anything else on the matter now but it's rather late so i'll check on it tomorrow.

[fizzyboot.livejournal.com]

It might also push up the cost of running it if a few people run wget over the site. I wonder how big it is altogether? I imagine the pictures might take up a fair bit of bandwidth.

[surliminal.livejournal.com]

What you mean they've closed for good? How will Andrew cope?!

[zotz]

We're not sure he will. And it's worse than just closed - they're tearing the whole building down.

[devilgate.livejournal.com]

He's had other regular haunts before. I'm sure he'll find somewhere new. Or old, as the case may be.

[twinkle-lfs.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, pernicious - just spent 20 mins going through parts of Redwatch and was disappointed to not see myself on there even once. Maybe I should send them a pic? I'd hate to miss out.

[zotz]

"Dear Redwatch,

We the undersigned object to the unfair, arbitrary and elitist policy excluding our pictures (see attached files) from your site . . . "

[rdi.livejournal.com]

Lord Darnley's...was that in West Port? Name rings a bell, but I can't remember just where it was.

[zotz]

Exactly so, yes. Right by all the dodgy strip pubs.

[rdi.livejournal.com]

Thanks - nice to know my memory's still working.

[akicif.livejournal.com]

I'm sure it was already the Cas Rock (never did work out where the name came from) by the time I saw HMHB there in 1994/5.

[zotz]

You're probably right, then. I've no clear memory of when it changed except that it was before I went south in '97.

[luckylove.livejournal.com]

I thought some of the blurred out faces were children. Maybe I'm wrong.