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It is clear that the privatisation of British Rail was - in terms of costs, customer satisfaction and safety - a success; and that the return of the railways to public control has been a disaster.

So who said this?


The Daily Telegraph. In its leader column.

Words fail me.

This is, of course, in connection with the ongoing court case over whether Railtrack shareholders deserve more of the taxpayer's money than they've already had. Answers on a postcard, please . . .

Date: 2005-07-19 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swisstone.livejournal.com
The Torygraph's continuing ability to utterly delude itself over rail privatization is beyond belief.

Date: 2005-07-19 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steer.livejournal.com
And saying of the current shambles (while better than railtrack... well, really... words fail me) "effectively to renationalise" is a gross misuse of both nationalised and effective.

Date: 2005-07-19 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grendelis.livejournal.com
Unbelievable. Perhaps their editor or suitable journalists should be on the next rail crash.

Date: 2005-07-19 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffymormegil.livejournal.com
They'll work out some contrived way of blaming it on Network Rail, or misguided regulation, or something.

Date: 2005-07-19 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] technotom.livejournal.com
Oh, I guess I was wrong to think that removing all funding from our railways and reducing their cover by something like 75% crippled our transport system irreparably, then.

Date: 2005-07-20 12:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poult.livejournal.com
That was done under nationalisation.
Mr Beaching and all that.

Date: 2005-07-21 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] technotom.livejournal.com
Ah. Oh.

I think I'll stick to disused buildings :)

Date: 2005-07-19 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devalmont.livejournal.com
Something should be done.

Date: 2005-07-19 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiaransalyn.livejournal.com
The editor should be asked the following two questions:

Sir, are you the front end of an arse?

Sir, are you the back end of an arse?

Assuming his answers are in the negative we can safely conclude that he is no end of an arse. Although the evidence you have already provided makes this clear.

Date: 2005-07-19 01:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lovingboth
Methinks the author should declare an interest before spouting such crap.

Date: 2005-07-19 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestialweasel.livejournal.com
You have to view the Telegraph and the Mail as being written by a strange re-enactment society that produce newspapers from an implausible and inconsistent parallel world. They would be more convincing if the parallel world were more self-consistent and if it were possible to deduce the critical point at which their world diverged from ours, which I have never managed to do.

Date: 2005-07-20 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poult.livejournal.com
Well... we've gone from a grossly innefficient, underfunded publicly run system to a publicly run track system with privately run trains which in some areas is has led to an improvement in service and others a decrease...
Its 6 of one and half a dozen of another from where I'm sitting.
The transfer from Railtrack to Network Rail has had negligable consequences though, so they are talking bollocks with that...

I see no argument against private running of the railway, so long as it is sensibly regulated to ensure safety and standard of service, and we do get a better service than I remember from BR on some lines (not on all though...). The infrastructure is probably best held by a publicly owned company which runs it with little interference from the government, but which is concerned with maintining the track etc. rather than profit for shareholders...
The problem with the privatisation done as it was seems to be that it was just to get money in the short term not to improve the service although the years of neglect didn't help, and still don't... (same with the tube, water infrastructure and probably others)

As for the railtrack fiasco, a company should not need government subsidy to survive. There is a case to answer about the amount of regulation however and about Byers lying to Parliament, which should be an offense which requires him to leave the Commons... (as it stands he may not have to do anything, or perhaps apologise to the house)

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