Date: 2005-02-08 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fluffymormegil.livejournal.com
But have they recently made it two decibels quieter, making an industrial band so happy? :)

Date: 2005-02-08 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] batswing.livejournal.com
Oooo, shiney! er.... What do you do with it? Where do you plug the cow in?

Date: 2005-02-08 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drpyrojames.livejournal.com
My compressor is bigger than your compressor. I just bought the 40HP one to drive my industrial noise machine. My industrial noise machine is a siren in the compressor airflow with a combustor amplifier on the back end. It'll do about 140dB.

Date: 2005-02-08 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jagwap.livejournal.com
Not exactly a new idea: Spin a few tunes? (http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/COMMS/auxetophone/auxetoph.htm#aux)

Date: 2005-02-09 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drpyrojames.livejournal.com
But.....

I can't see where the flames come into (or out of) that one, and it's the burning bit that makes it: a) loud, no really, very very loud indeed, and b)interesting. :)

Date: 2005-02-09 10:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drpyrojames.livejournal.com
It works by modulating the air flow but not the fuel, so that the heat release of the mixture can be made to vary. Slow the air down a touch and the Fuel Air Ratio (FAR) goes up, the heat release increases and then the the resulting pressure wave from the thermal expansion blasts out the exhaust. Tune the siren in the air flow to get different frequencies. In feedback mode, the pressure wave will feed back up the inlet and slow the air further, giving a bigger increase in FAR and hence bigger pressure waves. The system then collapses and repeats. This gets so noisy that it used to make all the hard drives in the lab vibrate so much that they wouldn't write to disk......

It's really for studying combustion oscillation and vortex shedding processes, but it does sound good. :)

Date: 2005-02-09 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drpyrojames.livejournal.com
Only in the last 10 years or so as lean burn gas turbines starting having oscillation problems. At least, that's as far as I know. We used to have one that ran on kerosene, but I stripped it and modified for methane. Soon to be upgraded to run on methane-hydrogen mix.

I don't know if Einstürzende know about them, but I'm sure they should.

Date: 2005-02-09 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drpyrojames.livejournal.com
As far as I know it was more a solution for diagnostic to control the vortex shedding and oscillations than an invention for combustors as such. Gas turbine combustors will behave like this simply when run lean. The research step was simply to lock in the experimental frequency to enable easy imaging of the oscillation process.

Date: 2005-02-09 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drpyrojames.livejournal.com
Hmm. Not quite quiet though, as the heat release is still going to dominate the reduction in the number of molecules and give you an expansion process. You also need to take into account that you need some hydrogen somewhere in the system to make CO burn. High humidity air is usually enough. The idea of an endothermic and reducing reaction would work better I think.

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