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Channel 4, next Wednesday.

1:15 am. Part of the "outside" thread.

Goths Make Better Lovers
Why do Goths always have boyfriends? Goths, so often the victims of wry asides, mild pity or open scorn always appear to be in a relationship - and, ironically, these relationships seem to be happier than the non-goth kind.

Explanations on a postcard, please . . .

Date: 2003-09-26 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ant-girl.livejournal.com
these relationships seem to be happier than the non-goth kind

????

What a bizarre statement. Surely goths are subject to all the same relationship problems as everybody else?

Date: 2003-09-26 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ant-girl.livejournal.com
I am crying tears of laughter.

Actually, I've always suspected a greater degree of relationship instability in the goth scene. Purely on the basis that I know a lot of single thirty-something goths, and very few who are married with 2.4 children or whatever. Not that I think this is inherent to goths, but more a symptom of being part of a group of relatively intelligent people who are less willing to do the marriage-kids thing just because that's what society expects.

Date: 2003-09-26 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-amber.livejournal.com
That sounds about right - as it's also true of other groups of marginalised unconventional too-clever people, like sf fans, and academics..

Date: 2003-09-27 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-lark-asc.livejournal.com
Quicker in, quicker out, more angst on the roadtrip, is my experience!

Date: 2003-09-26 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deeteeuk.livejournal.com
Um? I'm in shock. I'm surprised anyone even thought to ask the question.

Date: 2003-09-26 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlemsmortis.livejournal.com
er...we are ? we do ? *boggles*

Date: 2003-09-26 10:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com
Oh my. They actually made this? I know the researchers were asking slashgoth, meltdown and everyone else they could find about it, but...

Date: 2003-09-26 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wechsler.livejournal.com
Meh, I don't.

*sulk*

Date: 2003-09-26 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
What - make a better lover, or always have a boyfriend?

Date: 2003-09-26 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wechsler.livejournal.com
You need my response to answer that?

Date: 2003-09-27 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feanelwa.livejournal.com
Well...a larger number of counterexamples wouldn't go amiss...? ;)

Date: 2003-09-26 10:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nickys.livejournal.com
Possibly non-conformists are better at working out what they want in general, because they've already gone through a process of not accepting what society tells them they should want from life?

Do they mean us?

Date: 2003-09-26 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] childeric.livejournal.com
Well, the programme-makers can at least be assured of an audience of puzzled goths, at any rate. *shrug*

Date: 2003-09-26 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com
*laughs*

Date: 2003-09-26 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swisstone.livejournal.com
Isn't it obvious? Because goth babes look better, of course!

Date: 2003-09-26 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skx.livejournal.com
Because goth women make an effort to look nice, wear fishnet, pvc, and other sexy clothes.

On the down side lots of them are insipid, and sufficient cliquey to be only useful in an eyecandy way. (Oooh bitchy!)

Still naked they're no different to anybody else.

Date: 2003-09-26 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com
except for the ones with piercings and tattoos.

Date: 2003-09-26 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skx.livejournal.com
Sorry I'd forgotten that non-goths don't have hidden piercings and tattoos.

Well spotted.

Date: 2003-09-26 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
I can't work out whether you mean this seriously or as sarcasm. As sarcasm, of course, it would be incredibly stupid, since [livejournal.com profile] valkyriekaren's observation is that piercings and tattoos are more common among goths than among the general population in exactly the same way that (as you observe) fishnet and PVC are. I shall assume you mean it in seriousness.

Date: 2003-09-26 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scy11a.livejournal.com
Maybe we're just always in a relationship because of the whole goth-slut thing... that's goths of course, not me *flutters eyelashes innocently*

Date: 2003-09-26 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deliberateblank.livejournal.com
Now why couldn't they screen this just before a Calling night instead of just after?

Date: 2003-09-28 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kiaransalyn.livejournal.com
Why do Goths always have boyfriends?

They never have girlfriends then?

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