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I've just been down to The Big Shed In The Middle Of Nowhere and come back with Billy. Billy is, of course, a bookcase, as are his friends Billy, Billy and Billy. Benno, on the other hand, is CD holder. Thisseems to match my unofficial survery of Ikea customers : most of what everyone bought was Billy bookcases, although a few people bought other odds and ends also. It is basically a bookcase shop with pretensions. Exactly why it has pretensions to being a disused aircraft hangar I've no idea, but hey - everyone needs a hobby.

A friend of mine said a while back that a particular visit to Ikea was the gayest thing that had ever happened to him. It must have been a different Ikea, because if being gay was anything like my experience this evening (and that on my previous visit some months ago) you'd all have killed yourselves long since.

Still, I managed to get it all home without obviously breaking anything. Next I have to put the things together and get all the books and boxes of detritus onto them.

Friday: B-movie. Good. In a notable reversal of recent clubbing outings, I noticed several songs we'd played at the Calling three days earlier. Since then . . . hanging about doing not much. Ventured into town yesterday to start the Christmas shopping, and went to WUS in the evening, which was nice and relaxing. Listened to some Colorblind James Experience in the early evening. I got asked about a Canadian punk band Called My Dog Popper while out, and was told they had a song called We're Old We're Fat And We're Slow, which Dave at work's mentioned a few times. He didn't know who it was by, so now I can tell him. Apparently they're worth chasing up, which means that I might need to track down a copy of their album that I saw advertised in MRR in the late eighties - 668 - The Neighbour Of The Beast. I should also probably find We Are The Support Act by I, Ludicrous (still going, fact fans), which also sounds worth a listen.

Unlike several of my friends, I haven't seen The Two Towers yet. I will, though. And not in a filthy hobbit-fancying sense either.

I notice that various sets of plans have been proposed for redeveloping the site of the World Trade Centre. More than one would involve building the world's tallest skyscraper. Nice to see that humility's on the agenda. It'll be interesting to see whether the New York Fire Department once again argues the difficulty of fighting fires at those heights, and it'll be even more interesting to see whether they are again overruled by the men carrying the chequebooks. Last time, the owners of the site - the Port Authority - were their own planning authority, which put them in a fairly cushy position. They have a problem this time, in that people will actually be paying attention. They may (and that's "may", not "will") have to do it properly this time.





And thank you to [livejournal.com profile] dennyd for pointing that last one out.

Date: 2002-12-18 04:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] adjectivegail
I notice that various sets of plans have been proposed for redeveloping the site of the World Trade Centre. More than one would involve building the world's tallest skyscraper. Nice to see that humility's on the agenda.
have to say, that rather amused me (in a that's-not-very-funny kind of way) when i first read it. the buildings were an icon for capitalism and were destroyed with massive loss of life, an event which was seen as a wonderful victory by those who perpetrated it - and they're wanting to put an even taller building its place? what're they going to do next, distribute passenger aircrafts complete with engraved invitations?

eh, sorry. bah humbug. and grrrr. and so forth.

Billy & Bilbo

Date: 2002-12-18 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serpentstar.livejournal.com
You're quite right; I don't think I've ever been to Ikea and not bought at Billy bookcase.
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You're quite right; I don't think I've ever been to Ikea and not bought at Billy bookcase. <a http://www.newaeonbooks.demon.co.uk/">New Aeon Books</a> is almost entirely constructed out of Billy bookcases and pieces of string. For a while we had an Ikea business account with thirty days' credit, just for buying Billy bookcases in light oak.

Since moving to Wales, I've only been back to Ikea twice, once for a pair of Billy bookcases and once for a pack of extra shelves for 'em. Need another two Billys though so I will be back again soon.

I do tend to stock up on low-energy lightbulbs, tealights, and pickled herring when I go, too, but I admit the big draw is Billy.

Bilbo, OTOH, I am saving for my birthday in a fortnight. Saw the new Harry Potter tonight, which was good. I have to say I'm looking forward to The Two Towers far more than I was looking forward to Fellowship. I don't much like Tolkien, but Peter Jackson has actually managed to pluck out the decent story buried somewhere in LotR and make it visually fantastic too. . .

BTW, in a completely tangential manner, do you know any good astrophysicists? I have a top-notch idea for an SF novel but I need someone who knows the Kuiper Belt inside out. At least, as far as that is possible.


Date: 2002-12-18 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] agent5.livejournal.com

aw, I live just down the road from Ikea and I don't have a Billy....I feed deprived.

And I really *neeed* a Billy...the boxes of books in my room are pissing me off, and generally getting in the way.

Or -- Argos?

Date: 2002-12-19 03:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jinty
I have a Billy and a Benno, but recently betrayed them by going to Argos to buy two of their (cheaper, though slightly less tall) similar bookcases. Just as sturdy, slightly more longwinded to put together, but otherwise winning out given the fact that there's a giant Argos here in town and I don't have to go to a shed in the middle of nowhere and then make it all the way back with weighty boxes...

i, ludicrous!

Date: 2002-12-19 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atommickbrane.livejournal.com
Chuffin' eck! They are my grebt mate Dr. C's mates and I keep meaning to go and see them due to my not so secret love of Fall rip-offs and shit venues. Mmm, Bull and Gate. Mmm sticky floors.

And: mmmm, pervy hobbit fancying.

Re: Billy & Bilbo

Date: 2002-12-19 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serpentstar.livejournal.com
Ah, I'd forgotten that I mentioned Billy to you at Whitby. Most of those conversations while apparently coherent at the time were probably conducted in a state of hangover.

Fluffymark does indeed sound like the right person to talk to -- I don't know him, but I may mail him on your recommendation. Thanks!

Re: Billy & Bilbo

Date: 2002-12-19 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-wendles389.livejournal.com
goodness, hello Ian :)
I also know some people who got some Billy bookcases recently. The number of people acquiring these things is getting worrying IMHO.

Re: Billy & Bilbo

Date: 2002-12-19 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serpentstar.livejournal.com
Morning!

Worrying? Billy is not worrying! The ability to hold 40kg of books without bending or buckling is one to be praised, not worried at!

Of course now I have read Fight Club I know that Ikea are part of the problem rather than part of the solution. However I can't help but feel I'd rather trust my books to Billy than to the various pieces of MFI crap I've had over the years that are now in smaller pieces in skips somewhere.

Re: Billy & Bilbo

Date: 2002-12-19 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-wendles389.livejournal.com
Having seen them I have to agree they are much better. I think it's more the thought of various friends spending their sundays (or whenever) in Ikea... and everyone that has come out of the Bristol one so far claims to have lost their soul in there somewhere :)

Re: Billy & Bilbo

Date: 2002-12-19 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-wendles389.livejournal.com
Obviously (and if it were me I'd probably be doing a poll by now). I've only been in one in Warrington, and that was a very long time ago. I have successfully managed to avoid going in the Bristol one...so far.

Re: Or -- Argos?

Date: 2002-12-20 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com
Second vote for the Argos bookcases here. I have to get a couple more actually, one new one because I keep finding more books in my hands when I get home, and one replacement because my drunken ex fell through it during an attempt to beat me up (life's never dull around here, and if it was there'd be plenty to read until it got exciting again!)

The thing I like about them (presuming I'm buying the same ones) is that the shelves are only as deep as a paperback, more or less... which means I can't accumulate junk in front of them which is otherwise pretty inevitable.

Re: Billy & Bilbo

Date: 2002-12-20 05:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reddragdiva
40kg of books is nice. How about something that could take 60kg of vinyl records per shelf? Anything spring to mind?

Re: Or -- Argos?

Date: 2002-12-20 06:39 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jinty
They have different styles --- the ones I got were 'wide, extra deep' so that I can indeed accumulate stuff in two layers. I thought it best, especially as I will in fact be using at least one of them for comics (ie deeper than books).

Date: 2002-12-20 09:01 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reddragdiva
I'm thinking fecking huge office 'archive' shelving. I saw some promising candidates at Officeworks once, but that of course was in Australia. Possibly Staples would have something suitable. I have their paper catalogue at home.

We're Old We're Fat And We're Slow

Date: 2002-12-20 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] original-aj.livejournal.com
Please let me know if you find a copy - I can think of many circumstances in which that could be appropriate!

Re: Billy & Bilbo

Date: 2002-12-20 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serpentstar.livejournal.com
Well, in the last house my two Billies had several hundred records on the bottom shelves, with no buckling. I would be wary of putting records higher up just because of the risk of toppling, but if you had sufficient books it might work.

Otherwise you're looking at steel workshop shelving -- www.screwfix.com probably have it.

Re: Billy & Bilbo

Date: 2002-12-29 03:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fluffymark
Er...hello! :)

What do you need to know about the Kuiper belt? It not exactly my field of expertise, as i deal mostly with planetary systems, but it's close. However if I don't know the answer you need, I certainly know people who will. My college (as far as I know) is the only place in the UK doing Kuiper belt research, and were in the newspapers a couple of weeks back about the possible discovery of 'Planet X' lurking within the Kuiper Belt.

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